On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa chat about their first reactions to the OpenAI shakeup when it broke on Friday (2:00), Satya Nadella on CNBC (4:00), risks to Microsoft (9:00), Deidre’s biggest takeaway from the events over the last few days (14:30), and the OpenAI board opening talks for Sam Altman’s return (17:00).

Later, Dan sits down with Matt Turck, Partner at FirstMark Capital and host of The MAD Podcast, to discuss the implications of the OpenAI drama (19:30), what’s at stake for public and private investors (21:35), consumer AI vs. enterprise AI (25:30), whether is better off with Sam Altman (28:00), the shift in corporate reputation (34:00), opportunities the potential collapse of OpenAI means for public companies (35:30), VCs (38:15) and talent (40:15). They end the conversation with a quick chat about The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck (44:00) and the outlook for Google (46:15).

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