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In this intimate conversation, Codie and her husband reflect on their recent successes and delve into personal growth. They explore the complexities of human experiences, including sharing her personal stories from her time along the US-Mexico border. The discussion emphasizes the ethical responsibilities of journalists, the complexities of intervention in both reporting and real-life situations, and the challenges faced by service professionals. They highlight the historical and cultural dynamics various people, the fragility of societal structures, the nature of evil in human behavior, and the importance of understanding human experiences and the impact of individual actions within larger societal contexts.