"I talked my way into a job as a personal trainer, making 12 bucks an hour. And on the one hand, i was thrilled that i was going to et anything to learn an entirely new industry." "It took a while for me to just really unwind that grasping at a certain identity instead of assumptions," he says. 'i'mreally good with this next journey that i'm in on em but it wasn't an instant thing'