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114: Michael McFaul | What It's Like to Stand Up to Putin

The Jordan Harbinger Show

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The Importance of Separating Out What We Do

When I lived in Serbia, everyone thought I was a spy. It's like the crampiest, most shay. Even in China, they're like, you're a tourist, got it. Other Eastern Europe, the coding of paranoia is just kind of always there. Yeah, probably came from, it's probably a legacy of the Cold War.

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