Self doubt is a state of mind that actually opens up my mind and allows me to listen. People's minds are just trying to get closed back up and try not to let any other ideas in so it's difficult to go through life because if you don't pay attention your minds aren't paying attention. It takes three to five submissions before someone gets submitted three to five times before they even recognize this yes makes sense but yeah I don't have a concrete number there. You've never had somebody be like oh let's go again like they didn't like believe it or they thought oh I just fell down in a bad spot or something like that.