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Episode 170: Listening to Ecstasy with Charles Wininger

The Entheogenic Evolution

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How Did You Come to Mdma?

A, i've been a psychotherpist for the past 30 years. Aiwas married once and had the painful experience of divorce. When she met me, she was not a psychonote. She never even finished a joint in her life. And when she found out that i had this a what do you call it, i wouldn't call it a hobby,. Because that sounds too trivial, an interest in psychadelics. She said she wanted to try it, and she wanted totry mdma. A, i was floored becausea, because of her history, and because at that point in the year two thousand and two thousand and one, i had given upmd

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