Duma Optimism

"We did the we did this whole project. Once you finish something, you couldn't feel happy about it because you had to start something else," he says. "I would say that I think at a high level, framing was easier than we thought it was going to be and almost kind of like deceptively soBecause you can put up walls really fast." He adds: "The difference between an okay job and a very good job is a very big difference"