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"I'm getting tired of it. We're supposed to be out of this," he says, "and then there's supposed to be some type of creative renaissance." He asks: 'What if we lifted the sanctions on boton and said, hey, what if, what is it? You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar?' The show airs at 8 p.m. ET/PT Monday-Friday on HLN.
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