I remember having that feeling with ecstasy especially because it really doesn't mess with your judgment as you were saying. You could talk to your parents at that point and they wouldn't notice anything different or or wrong about you except that you were happier. And I was like wow that really is a powerful drug but what what's intriguing to me is that Tamler and from what's absent it seems as if it's giving you a propositional belief. Well, it doesn't it doesn't work that way for most people. It works that there are those who usually not by virtue of ecstasy but by virtue of some other contemplative practice like meditation can have something like a permanent transition to more normative states

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