In this episode, Dave is joined by Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify, a sales intelligence platform that helps B2B sales teams identify key contacts for more effective outreach. With experience at companies like Twilio and Heap, Taylor shares the marketing strategies she’s used to drive growth in sales-led organizations.
Dave and Taylor cover:
- How Champify drives awareness through events, LinkedIn organic, and thought leader ads
- Why they stopped doing direct response ads and are seeing better results with high-value content assets
- Why cold calling is an effective channel in Champify's sales-led approach
- Why they chose to stop hiring freelancers and agencies and instead opted to build expertise in-house
Timestamps
- (00:00) - - Intro to Taylor
- (04:21) - - How to Build Product Awareness
- (08:55) - - Why Thought Leader Posts Are a Better Approach Than B2B Ads
- (11:13) - - How To Measure LinkedIn Effectiveness
- (15:12) - - Areas Where Taylor Hopes to Drive Revenue Growth at Champify
- (19:31) - - Why Cold Calling Works at Champify
- (21:14) - - Measuring Success Between Sales and Marketing
- (23:15) - - Why Champify Stopped Using Direct Response Ads and Is Seeing Better Results with High-Value Content Assets
- (27:00) - - Driving Higher Intent with Content Assets
- (29:21) - - Why Champify Stopped Outsourcing Until They Had a Definition of “Good”
- (32:09) - - Measuring Success Without Gating Content or Generating MQLs
- (35:01) - - Advice for New Marketing Leaders
- (38:34) - - Closing Remarks
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