Leadership and Self Deception

J d: Can you just walk us a little bit deeper? Through how that heart shift, mind shift happened for you, or how it continues to happen. I was talking o patrick lencioni recently. He'll be on the podcast again, and his next book is all about motive, the motivation of a leader. J d: It's interesting how i love it when they kind of, whether they stumble on to, or it's intentional,. They stumble on to the pattern that god wrote into creation. And what you find is that, is that companies that, you know, to use jim collins word, are more about purpose of what they're doing than