Four years ago was when we had like the orange day yeah and this is something that seared my brain was taking my then three year old to school. I can't tell you that number of people who cite that day in the Bay Area as the day that they were like all right I have to do something different with my time. It does feel like there's sadly if you're talking about really mobilizing people in power to create new systems for billions of people there's going to have a lot of be really terrible things having to happen.
The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent brings on Trevor Neilson, founder of startup Wastefuel and the Climate Emergency Fund, to talk about how he helped launch and finance Extinction Rebellion (XR) (4:50), how the Malibu wildfires inspired him to act (8:20), meeting Roger Hallam, founder of XR and Just Stop Oil (16:00), bankrolling protestors (18:00), why he thinks the movement has gone off the rails (22:50), whether he is worried about what his former colleagues will think (32:00), how XR has experimented with changing tactics (40:30), where and how he grew up (43:30), getting a job at the White House (46:30), working with Bono on AIDS (50:00), starting his own company (55:00), why he does not think we will meet the 1.5 degree goal (58:10), telling the truth (1:09:00), and the children suing Montana (1:11:50)
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