I think it really comes out of desperation. My desire to be a pro gamer as a teenager wasn't just because I was curious. It's because I was sick every day, didn't really have friends at school and the only place that I found identity was in a video game. That's desperation or bodybuilding is like, I weighed 100 pounds as an 18 year old and it didn't feel great. And I wanted, you know, I didn't want to be made fun of and I wanted girls to like me. So I've really learned that over time now that's different. Your motivation changes after you make some money, that desperation is gone. You're not living in a

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