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220. From Geek to Genius with Ron Johnson and Jeremy Utley (Part 1)

The Greg McKeown Podcast

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Steve Jobs' First Executive Meeting

"It was a new language to me. The whole everything they're talking about operating systems ... I wouldn't have been aware of not being an Apple guy tech guy," he says. "Steve was by far the best delegator I've ever seen."

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