If you rely on Small Biz Thoughts, IT Service Provider University, or The Business of Tech, this conversation is your roadmap to what’s changing and what’s not. Hear directly from Dave Sobel and Karl Palachuk about the acquisition, the five‑year plan, and how this new ecosystem can help you build a stronger MSP in 2026.

=== Why listen

Understand why MSP Radio acquired Small Biz Thoughts and IT Service Provider University.
Hear Karl explain why he sold, what “stewardship” means, and why he’s not going anywhere.
Learn how SBT community members will now gain access to Business of Tech plus content, vendor briefings, and insider reports.
Get insight into Dave’s multi‑year business plan and his “chocolate and marshmallow” analogy for combining brands.
Discover how the new structure keeps Karl’s books, SOPs, and checklists alive and updated rather than shelved.
See how both Dave and Karl think about vendor relationships, ethics, and independent, fact‑driven analysis.
Hear practical ways MSPs can plug into the combined ecosystem for training, coaching, and community.

=== Mentioned on the show

MSP Radio (company/umbrella): https://www.mspradio.com
The Business of Tech (podcast/media): https://www.businessof.tech
Small Biz Thoughts: https://www.smallbizthoughts.com
IT Service Provider University (ITSPU): https://www.itspu.com
Relax Focus Succeed (book): https://amzn.to/44W2I10
Killing IT Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-killing-it-podcast/id1463295432

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