In the US alone last year, $35 billion of productivity lost happen due to inefficient meetings. You really have to be aware what actually needs to be in a meeting versus could be done outside of a live meeting. If there's any part of that meeting that didn't need to be live, that could have been done asynchronous. And I've also heard the it's a bug of the system when we have to hire more people. But like you said, it introduces all sorts of other complexity too.

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