A good example of how outside the Overton window used to be is I was at the New Republic when Andrew Sullivan wrote for the New Republic, Andrew was also there. A cover story that's that widely recognized as a real milestone in in awareness of the issue kind of this was around 1990. And then suddenly it's in 10 years within 10 years, it's really in play. Then in another 15 years game over, there's been a 180. The Overton window just completely shifting so that what used to be like squarely in the middle or even to the left of the Overtonwindow is now already like outside of it.

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