Navigating Danger and the Therapeutic Learning Process

In this episode, we continue our deep dive with Daniel Lyman as we analyze a session with June, a filmmaker who’s made major strides in her chronic pain recovery but finds herself stuck. Together, we unpack the fear, anger, and sadness that have been underlying her migraines—and how reframing these emotions as protective allies can create powerful breakthroughs.

Daniel shares insights from his OCD and pain reprocessing background, and John uses emotional exposure and paradoxical agenda setting to help June see emotions as mature, trustworthy parts of herself.

🔹 How to make journaling more effective
🔹 What to do when recovery plateaus
🔹 Why fear of emotions keeps the nervous system stuck
🔹 How to turn fear and anger into strengths
🔹 Why feeling emotions in the moment creates change

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