Revisiting Clinton-era conspiracy theories

In this episode, we dive deep into the systemic manipulation and bias of mainstream media, exploring stories and scandals that often go underreported or are misrepresented. From the fallout of the Epstein files and the controversies surrounding political figures, to the intricacies of election interference and media cover-ups, we break down how narratives are shaped and why certain truths remain hidden.We discuss the role of both traditional and new media in influencing public perception, the impact of social media campaigns, and the rise of authenticity as a response to media distrust. The conversation covers everything from the Russia election interference and its connection to movements like Black Lives Matter, to the BBC’s editorial controversies and the broader implications for democracy and free speech.Join us as we question the status quo, revisit so-called conspiracy theories, and challenge the narratives pushed by powerful institutions. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, this episode encourages critical thinking and a closer look at the stories that shape our world.Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share your thoughts in the comments below![00:00:00]

Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today.

Today we are going to be talking about just how effing evil the media is.

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and I think that a lot of people who. Watch our show ‘cause we have a number of progressives who watch our show. And if you’re a conservative, you might have picked up some of these stories that we’re gonna be covering in this show.

But what we’re gonna be covering is a lot of stories that haven’t gotten as much coverage as they probably should have, and show the way that mainstream media has been systemically manipulating the public for. A long time, especially recently with the biggest fallout being the fallout of the Epstein files is what we’re going to start with.

Because if you watched the Drudge report or watched a lot of mainstream news, you would think that these had a bunch of damning things of Trump in them when in fact they may actually provide [00:01:00] a smoking gun that the Democrats may have killed somebody recently.

Simone Collins: What?

Malcolm Collins: Yes. We’ll get to this in a second, but the gist being is I always ask if the Democrats actually had anything that could be used against Trump in the Epstein files.

Why didn’t they release it during the election with Biden, right? Yeah,

Simone Collins: right.

Malcolm Collins: Well, we learned why they didn’t and why they did. Now, the way they made it look like Trump had met with somebody underage was by blacking out a person’s name. But now we have the real version of this because people leaked the real version of it.

Congressman did showing. Well,

Simone Collins: they did. Oh, I didn’t know that.

Malcolm Collins: So we know whose name was on it. We know that the person’s name was on it, testified both in Congress and wrote in her book that Trump had done nothing wrong to her.

Simone Collins: So it was that woman. Okay? Yes.

Malcolm Collins: And that she mysteriously committed suicide.

Despite saying on multiple occasions she [00:02:00] would never commit suicide. Only, I think it was a month before the release of the files, or it might’ve even just been weeks before this quote unquote release, and she needed to be dead during the release. Otherwise, she could immediately come out and say, Hey, I said this under oath and I said this in my book, but really seriously, what are you guys doing?

Trump has always been there for me.

Simone Collins: Wow. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: So it’s worse than it looks. And why did they release this now? It appears they released it because they thought it would make Trump look bad to cover up. They’re bungling of the shutdown, which is just, their base is so mad at them because they’re based at the impression that they had won because they won these election cycles and in polling it was looking like they were winning, except I think they saw the.

Wind and it was not gonna last for long. People were getting mad at the Democrats over the snap benefit stuff when Trump rightly pointed out that this was a fight over [00:03:00] them trying to give medical care from American taxpayers to illegal immigrants.

Note, if you’re getting your news from the traditional media, they’d say, oh no, the shutdown wasn’t over that because. Illegal immigrants couldn’t get Medicare anyway and couldn’t get healthcare anyway, except that we know of tons of instances in which they did. It’s the same when they said, oh, illegal immigrants can’t vote.

And yet we had this sting operation that got very little coverage showing nonprofit directors in New York leading up to the AMI election, , literally telling somebody who they thought was an illegal immigrant, how to vote and who to vote for.

Speaker: Oh, did you register? Sorry? When did you register to vote? I, I did not. I, I, I didn’t sign anything. They just told me to come here to vote.

Speaker 5: What I found most odd is that Pedro Rodriguez would keep telling me that I did not reside at an address that he personally signed the letter saying that I resided at.

Speaker: He gave me winking, a nod. He told me, vote for the man whose name begins with the letter [00:04:00] M

And it always really gets to me when they’re all like, oh, there’s been no documented evidence of large scale illegal immigrant voting when we know that Texas, for example, had to remove 2,700, , non-citizens from its voter rolls. , And that in, in Florida, even the Democrats would say. Oh, it wasn’t 180,000 non-citizens who were moved.

It was 2,625 non-citizens who were moved.

And this isn’t coming from far, far right group. This is the A CLU saying this so we know this is something that happens and it’s just like this narrative that gets repeated over and over again that it doesn’t happen.

Malcolm Collins: and that’s what the Trump administration was putting their foot down on.

And the longer that went on, the more that would burn the Democratic coalition. So I will say that in the short term, they were winning on this, well, potentially they cheated in a few elections. If you look at the Mond ballot situation, that was shocking to me when I saw that. The Zhan mond’s wait name.

Wait, what?

Simone Collins: What Momani ballot situation.

Malcolm Collins: The [00:05:00] guy who just won in New York.

Simone Collins: Yeah. What ha

Malcolm Collins: what’s thought the ballot thought about this guy? His name was on the ballot multiple times and it was on the ballot Oh. Ballot, multiple times before the only real competitor to him was on the ballot. Right. This was like very deliberate to hide a chance to vote for the real competitor.

And then there’s been significant foul play in the Virginia race that. Eh, I might add that in post if people are interested in that. But yeah, it looks really bad. Like when you look at the Mond race, you’re like, he literally couldn’t have lost the race given the way the ballot was structured.

And that’s really horrifying to me that we live in a country where something,

No. While I have been able to find legal justification for having Mond’s name on the ballot twice and for having Cuomo’s name later on the ballot, I have been able to find no legal justification for right justifying Cuomo’s ballot measure and leaving [00:06:00] the three left justified boxes that would’ve left his name more visible.

If you just ordered it in the normal way, it would’ve been ordered blank.

And I’d also point out here that even if something is quote unquote the legal way it’s done, that doesn’t mean that it’s not also cheating. , You can put laws on the book that give one party an unfair advantage in a particular area. That’s exactly what some of the Supreme Court decisions have been about preventing.

, That’s exactly what. Voting Rights Act stuff is about, , the idea that you’re like, oh yeah, it’s totally normal to have a candidate listed twice before his primary competitor. , Because of these laws that we put on the book, that doesn’t make it fair. This point is extremely important. , I hate when people, and this has been a constant thing on this podcast, when people are like, well, what they did was legal, therefore, it’s a non-issue. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be. Talking about it in the news so that [00:07:00] the laws can be changed to make our elections fair.

I don’t think any sane thinking person looking at this ballot would say that this election was fair .

Malcolm Collins: Basically what I’m saying is him winning is not. As much as I had thought, a implication that democratic sentiment is overflowing right now. But more of a, he just cheated.

Simone Collins: Oh wow. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, when you saw the ballot, did you sort of like, oh yeah, there’s no way the other major candidate could have win.

Simone Collins: It is pretty confusing. Yeah. Yeah. To be fair,

Malcolm Collins: if you had been on the ballot twice and the only person running against you was after like eight other candidates, you wouldn’t have thought you could win or you would’ve said, oh, no, you would’ve been like, yeah, I’m gonna win. I don’t care if anybody knows who I am.

Simone Collins: No, I, I mean, yeah, it, it has also been shown, I think, in various studies that you’re positioning on a ballot is going to mess with your odds of winning. I also remember [00:08:00] when, when I unsuccessfully ran for office. How crestfallen I felt when my, my position was on the, the only thing on the flip side of the ballot, and a lot of people probably missed it.

I’ve been filling out the ballot. Yeah. So

Malcolm Collins: you see it matters where you are on the ballot. Yeah. And I note here, this actually gets to me because I think I only saw this on Asma Gold. I’ve literally not seen it covered by the mainstream news at all. Wow. Which really shocked me. And also interesting, we recently learned that now our highest overlapping fan base is as asthma gold.

Which made me feel really good. And now we have a big overlapping fan base with NS as well. I’m like, wow. We’re getting into the, you’re in big company, the, the big leagues. So fun. With, and Tim Pool is another big overlap for us. But I was surprised to see that. But then the next one that I wanna go into here is the text messages.

‘cause again, this is another thing that I’ve also only seen from streamers. It’s not that news hasn’t covered it, but I’ve only seen it heavily covered as somebody who checks the Drudge report every [00:09:00] day, which is an aggregator and should be showing this stuff if it’s being covered a lot. Yeah. Is so, , a, a House of representative member. Okay. Stacey Plat. Now I will note she is a and, and a Democrat. Mind you this was after Jeffrey Epstein. So in 2019, after he was convicted as a sex offender and pleaded guilty to it, right? So he was known as a sex offender at this point.

Simone Collins: Okay?

Malcolm Collins: But we now have a series of texts from her.

Where Michael Cohen was testifying, attempting to take down Trump, where she was communicating with Epstein where it was clear that she was basically acting. Within the US house as Epstein’s mouthpiece in an attempt to take down Trump, because Epstein saw Trump is one of his core enemies, which again, was made clear multiple times in the leaks.

Now the Democrats are like, oh, this proves that Epstein looked down on Trump and Epstein was a bad guy. So Trump must be a really bad guy. No, and I’m like, [00:10:00] that’s not the way it works. It proves it. Epstein for a long time has had an existential fear of Trump, and they were not at all buddy buddies, and that Epstein likely had nothing on Trump or he would’ve used it given.

When you see what Epstein was doing during this congressional hearing. Okay, well

Simone Collins: that’s the gold simple take is that they were, it appears to be that they were friends and they had a falling out. It’s, it’s simple.

Malcolm Collins: Yes. And the falling out was Yeah. Over Epstein creeping on young girls.

Simone Collins: Yeah. At

Malcolm Collins: his

Simone Collins: at and Mar-a-Lago.

Malcolm Collins: It’s, it is also clear that Trump knew that Epstein creeped on long girls and tried to tell the public about it in not uncertain terms. Yeah. There are clips of in the past where he’s like, yeah, Epstein likes them young. Yeah, like in a, like, you should do something about this. Like, I’m telling you, yes, we might

wanna

Simone Collins: look into this.

I’m

Malcolm Collins: the news. Like, look into this. Like,

Simone Collins: yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Anyway and you can see why Epstein might have been freaked out about Trump saying that, and why this may have caused the, the fight, but we’ve gone over that in other videos. I wanna get to this. [00:11:00] So Epstein texts, herb Cohen brought up Rona Keeper of Secrets.

This is referring to Rona Gaff. Trump’s a longtime ex executive assistant, but misspelling her name and then PLT responds. Rona question, question mark. So note here, she then says, quick, I’m up next. Is this an acronym? So she had no idea who Rona was. Rona. Was this guy who was on Michael Cohen’s assistant Epstein, was tweeting to a US congressional representative, a democratic one.

Basically, you need to ask about Rono when you get on stage. She then implies, well, not implies, she basically says it quick. I’m up next. Is this an acronym showing? She had no idea who RONA was. So she’s gonna go on stage and ask about Rona. Because Epstein told her to. Okay. Then Epstein [00:12:00] says that’s his assistant.

Then Epstein says he’s opened the door to questions regarding who are the other henchmen at trump org. Plat goes, yep. Very aware in waiting my turn, and then after she gives her deposition. Epstein text her good work, literally sitting. And she’s still in Congress, by the way. She’s a non-voting member because she’s from the US Virgin Islands, but she is acting as a wait.

We,

Simone Collins: we,

Malcolm Collins: we

Simone Collins: elect and pay non-voting members of Congress.

Malcolm Collins: What

Simone Collins: in the US Virgin Islands? Does she receive a salary for this?

Malcolm Collins: I’m pretty sure she, well, I know she receives $30,000 from Epstein. But yeah.

Simone Collins: And more disturbed honestly, if taxpayers are paying for her

She receives a salary of $174,000 a year.

Malcolm Collins: to, no, no. This is a, this is a big deal that this was after we knew Epstein was a convicted sex offender, and he had [00:13:00] a democratic congressional representative who was able to ask who questions during hearings.

Notably in this. Event in an effort to take down Trump as Epstein’s mouthpiece, and then told like, good job. Like being patted on the head like a dog. Like that is wild to me. As, as gold said when he went over this, oh my God, is Epstein Heard? GPT

Simone Collins: Oh God.

Malcolm Collins: Okay, so another thing that I wanted to go on here was the chance, because this has opened, the Epstein files have again opened the possibility that the Clintons may have off someone to hide an affair that Hillary was having.

Simone Collins: I just love this recurring theme.

Malcolm Collins: Well, yeah, this didn’t hit me, and then I was like.

Oh wait. Yeah, I remember when republicans used to say that and I thought they were crazy conspiracy theorists. Yeah. And now that I’ve realized that a lot of like conspiracy theorists are batting 10 for [00:14:00] 10 these days, I should probably revisit those particular deaths. As well as we will revisit the death of Victoria, the person who was holding up the release of the Epstein files, because basically Democrats had no reason to really release it and the

Simone Collins: redacted victim in the most recently released documents.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Also, you can say, why did Trump fight the release? Well, I mean, the release has happened now and it didn’t really have anything that made Trump look particularly bad. Our previous guess was that it was. Intelligence either Saudi or Israeli intelligence. I still think that’s the case. And it just wasn’t in what was released.

Simone Collins: Though most recently, he is expressed support for releasing all the files. I mean, now it’s a considered a rel a relative inevitability, I think currently. Kelsey vote voting or betting odds that the Epstein files just totally get released, or like 96%. So everyone’s pretty confident that everything’s gonna come out anyway, so then why would not [00:15:00] Trump express support for it?

But yeah, my guess is that the, the still, the biggest reason why he didn’t before was. There was too much strategically for the US to lose if we did release all that information, even though it would be satisfying or it might

Malcolm Collins: have been that he thought that this stuff would make him look bad when it really doesn’t.

Could be.

I do think the fact that he pushed for the Es Epstein files to be fully released after this particular release happened about him, makes me think that this was what all of the fuss was about for him. Either that or, as I’ve seen some democratic news sources ringing their hands about, did he receive some sort of assurance that the files had been scrubbed of things related to him, yet that seems unlikely.

I’m sure we’re gonna get a bunch of files of things related to Trump. I think that what we learned from this is it was that specific instance that he was so worried about.

Malcolm Collins: I don’t know. But anyway, to continue here because it’s actually been surprising how [00:16:00] like nothing Burger it is with, with, and we’ll, we’ll go into other stuff here. Interesting here once is that Epstein wrote Nusbaum White House Council Hillary doing naughties with Vince implying that he had information.

Now note, he had no proof of this information, but it implied that he had information that Vince Foster a long time associated the Clintons from Ogden saws where he worked with Hillary at the Rose law firm starting in the 1970s. He served as Deputy White House counsel in the early days of Bill Clinton’s presidency On July 20th, 1993, foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, Virginia from a gunshot wound to the mouse, which had officially ruled a suicide by multiple investigations, including an independent counsel by Ken Starr, but anyway however the death has long fueled conspiracy theories due to inconsistencies like the lack of fingerprints on the gun. That’s a big inconsistency. Mm, a missing bullet and witness statement discrepancies.

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Rumors of an affair between [00:17:00] Hillary and Foster Predate the Epstein email. They appeared in books like Russ and Keller’s, the First Family Detail 2014, and Christopher Anderson’s bill and Hillary the Marriage, 1999, citing anonymous sources like state troopers who claim to see foster visiting the Clinton’s home during Bill’s absences.

Hillary Clinton was con consistently denied any romantic involvement describing Foster as a close friend and colleague. The Epstein allegation re. Revives these old claims. Now I do. I think that Hillary Clinton is the type of person who would cheat on Bill Clinton? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, they seemed to have had a near open marriage from what I can see.

She didn’t seem particularly mad when he was caught cheating.

Simone Collins: I know, but she just seems more interested in. Practical maneuvering for influence and power not, come

Malcolm Collins: on. They’re debauched people. If, if I do, I do not think I, I’m,

Simone Collins: he just doesn’t seem like [00:18:00] a fun person. Like I look at Bill and he looks like a man who could.

Indulge in hedonic fun times. Hillary doesn’t look like that kind of person.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. But I could see Hillary is the type of person who would love an attractive man who fond over her and told her how great she was and how amazing she was and how beautiful she was, and. I don’t think that it was about the sex for her.

I think it was about all the other stuff, but it, it seems within her character. Do I think that Hillary Clinton is the type of person who would lie if you didn’t have definitive proof she had cheated? Yes, absolutely. Like that is completely was in her character. So her denying it tells us nothing. So really, it just seems broadly likely to me.

Do I think she’s the type of person who would organize a hit on somebody? Well, let’s go further evidence on that. Okay. And by the way, we’re also gonna get to the BBC covering things up and everything like that and all the media stuff. But I’m like, it’s weird that I was unaware of how plausible this stuff was.

Simone Collins: Also Anna’s cancellation. My [00:19:00] gosh.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, talk about that, Simone.

Simone Collins: Right? So, for those of you not familiar with the Red Scare Podcast, it is hosted by Anna and Dasha. Anna is also an actress, most notably, I guess like recently she, she was in succession, the show, the HBO show that was really popular. And she most recently it hit the news because she was dropped by her talent agency and, movie that she was working on after she and Dasha had Nick Fuentes on the Red Scare podcast, which is really crazy because I, I think arguably they’ve had much more controversial people on the podcast in the past and we’ve all been under, under the impression that we’re past the age Yeah. Of, yeah.

Cancellation, especially due to what I would call like social contagion, fears. Like, oh, you talked the bad person, therefore we cancel you. I mean, I can understand [00:20:00] cancellation because you yourself espouse the wrong views. Capital W. Capital V, but like the fact that she, and. Dasha had Nick Fuentes on their podcast, and again, they’ve had very controversial people on their podcast.

Like our friend Ze has been on their podcast. Yeah. Well, Ze no he’s not. Like I’m talking way more controversial than that. But it is, it is really, really wild to me. What I think happened is that this isn’t so much a media being corrupted thing as it is that the talent agency and likely the movie in question as well.

Both had people, possibly even the same person who were like, it’s me or Anna, like, I will walk if you do not get rid of her because of. What she did. Because I still think in the end that’s why cancellations took place in the first place. It’s that businesses and individuals felt like they [00:21:00] would lose essential sources of income or essential audiences or essential customers if they did not bend to the whims of a different contingent that was making demands and basically a me or them demand.

So I think that that’s what happened. Who knows, because we have no insight into this. We have no insider insight into this. But I still think it’s really, it’s, it’s something because I didn’t. I didn’t think this was possible post vibe shift. I thought we were beyond that and, and clearly we’re not.

Yeah, no.

Malcolm Collins: That upset me and that what galvanized me on the Israel thing. Like, we need to make a move on this. The right needs to make a move on this otherwise,

Simone Collins: and mean the Israel thing. You, you, you are pointing to a different podcast in which you encouraged a different policy among conservatives in which we financially cut off Israel and stopped sending military support and instead Ally in different ways.

Because

Malcolm Collins: we,

Simone Collins: well, it completely

Malcolm Collins: undermine the Democrats in the next election cycle.

Simone Collins: Yeah. But like also this very consistent [00:22:00] conservative support of Israel, sort of in a more unquestioning way. Well,

Malcolm Collins: it doesn’t even matter because Netanyahu was planning on canceling it in 2028 anyway, so, right. Like why not do it now when, when we can claim the victory for it.

Right.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Basically the, the point being that like we need to sort of break this. This flashpoint, which appears to be fueling what some people are calling a civil war on the right. Honest cancellation, I think is independent of that. But I mean, of course them, them interviewing Nick Fuentes is, is maybe part of that.

Maybe it’s just that. Someone really hates Nick Fuentes and Anna having him on her podcast was enough for that. But yeah,

Malcolm Collins: well, I mean, and, and it would really piss off Ben Shapiro, so that, I find that hilarious.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: But anyway, to continue here so. Here moving forwards. What made people think that this might have been an assassination?

Alright, so a torn [00:23:00] resignation letter was found in Foster’s briefcase days after his death, accusing the White House FBI press, GOP and Clinton of various issues. It had been smudged palm print, later identified as burna NASA bombs, but no fingerprints. Three handwriting Xray originally suggested it was a forgery.

Although it later did not appear to be a forgery, but I think it’s even worse if it’s not a forgery. He’s got a note in his bag being like, I’m gonna expose the Clintons that after he is found dead. In unusual circumstances,

Simone Collins: I don’t know. That seems so suspicious. If you write a resignation letter that you ultimately don’t plan on submitting, you don’t just like tear it and then put it back in your desk.

Well, he was in

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, a bag. Yeah. He, he was Foster was holding a cult 38 special in his right hand, in his sum through the trigger guard wait in his right hand with his sum through the trigger guard conspiracy theorists claimed the gun was placed, postmortem the body was moved or staged, and that there was no exit wound based on a park.

[00:24:00] Police officer’s official Miss Misstatement, they said blonde hair, carpet fibers on his suit and semen in his underwear were highlighted as odd. That is odd. Why would there be semen in your underwear?

Simone Collins: Well, I don’t know. He didn’t clean up after. Diddling yourself? Very well.

Malcolm Collins: I, that, that is not an issue that I think men have.

Simone Collins: Oh, okay. I, I don’t know how this works

Malcolm Collins: unless he’d had like a, a, an affair at work. Oh. Who might he have had an affair with anyway, to continue suggesting the body was transported or involved in foul play. It On July 22nd, 1993 whitewater related documents were removed from Foster’s office and sent to the Clinton’s personal attorney raising questions about tampering coverups.

Then the next one that is often said to be part of the Hillary Body Trail is Mark Middleton former Clinton White House aide who facilitated Jeffrey Epstein’s visits to the White House in the 1990s. He [00:25:00] died in May 7th, 2022 at Hyer Ranch in Al Arkansas’s, sororities ruled it as suicide, but the unusual method and connections have fueled conspiracy method.

And the seed Middleton was found hanging from a tree with an extension cord around his neck and a shotgun wound to the chest. The shotgun was located. 30 feet away with a gun case and buckshot in his nearby SUV. He reportedly stood on a bench tied to the cord, shot himself and fell flinging the gun due to recoil.

No blood was visible on the body and initial media reports. EG daily mail claimed a no sign of a weapon, although that was later corrected when the weapon was found. 30 feet away. The tree was reportedly only 80% of the height needed for typical hanging with no platform or LA ladder mentioned Beyond the bench.

The dual method shooting versus hanging seemed overly elaborate leading to claims it was a stage suicide. Middleton ties to Epstein further, and hence [00:26:00] this they say that the lack of blood was due to rapid death. Wait, that doesn’t make a lot of sense to, I guess the heart wasn’t pumping as fast, so there was less blood.

That seems. Implausible was a shotgun. ‘cause a shotgun’s not gonna like remove the heart.

Simone Collins: The otter thing is the combination of, of things and the shotgun that far away from the body.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. From kickback. I don’t, I don’t buy that

Simone Collins: well. So like, just shoot yourself if that’s what it comes down to, you know, like why the hanging that seems like so much more work.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

And I’d note on the Clinton body count thing, , I’m revisiting them only because I didn’t give them a fair shake the first time I heard about these stories. Not because I actually think that any of these were, , likely assassinations. , Even with the story that we’re, we’ll, we’ll get to in a second.

, The stories that I’m talking about today, I still lean towards. These are probably not assassinations, , whereas the. Story we talked about yesterday was the Trump attempted, , killer [00:27:00] that, that I think was very obviously foul play on behalf of the FBI. And you can watch our episode on that with this stuff.

I’m still not entirely convinced, but I will say that it’s worth giving it a shake.

when we’re entering a point in the timeline where when I look back on things that were previously labeled conspiracy theories, a lot more of them than I would’ve suspected or bet have turned out to be accurate or more evidence-based than I originally suspected. So I think it’s worth revisiting them occasionally.

Okay. So, now the thing that I talked about earlier, the thing that came out that the Democrats had to wait to release until this woman had died. Mm-hmm. This was November, 2025. The it said, I want to you to realize that the dog that hasn’t barked is Trump and added that the alleged victim’s name that was later released to the public, spent hours at my house with him.

He never once has been mentioned. Note here. Why didn’t he say what he had done or use a euphemism for what they had done if he had done more than literally just spent [00:28:00] time with her at the house? Especially given the fact that that, that she had repeatedly said that Trump did nothing.

And I’ll note here, the dog had, didn’t bark. It’s a literary reference to a Sherlock home story implying. Significant something that didn’t happen. So again, that also implies that nothing happened there, right? Like he’s trying to get evidence on Trump and he was unable to get evidence on Trump.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Now multiple sources have claimed that the name was Virginia G’s name. Let’s see who these sources are.

Simone Collins: Well, and that specifically, the reason it was redacted was not to protect the name of any particular victim, but to make it seem more incriminating than it was because she was on the record as,

Malcolm Collins: yeah.

Well,

Simone Collins: we know that Exon Trump,

Malcolm Collins: you do not redact names in a situation like this if the person is deceased. So. It is very sus that it was redacted. It, it basically means it was redacted intentionally to try to make it look like Trump had done something he didn’t, and use a dead woman’s reputation to do that [00:29:00] which is very bad and a very bad look.

Note here Democrats released an email of Epstein that highlighted that Trump, quote, unquote, knew about the girls. We, we know that Trump said that, like, I’m confused about this. Trump tried to make a, like, that is why Trump blew up his relationship with Epstein, because Epstein was creeping on younger girls, right?

Like Trump has always said that from the very beginning, and it’s, it’s been in the earliest recounted records of this. So I don’t, I don. See that is particularly damning. Let’s look at the car crash, right? Okay, so about a month before her death, this is Victoria, right on March 24th, 2025. Guffey was involved in a suspicious bucks, a bus accident in Western Australia. She posted about it online saying that she was hospitalized with severe injuries. And given only four days to live, but miraculously recovered.

Now, obviously given the fact that she died just months after this and it appeared that they’ve. We’re looking to get her dead to release these files. You know, as soon as Democrats had an interest in release, she was

Speaker 2: final [00:30:00] destination.

Malcolm Collins: Ah, right. Now also her father, sky Roberts publicly rejected suicide saying that there’s no way she took her own life demanding an independent probe. And I, I would know that with, with people in my family, like some people in my family, if they died, I’d just be like, no, that’s, that’s not possible.

Oh, by the way, if I end up committing suicide, I would never commit suicide. I want that on the record. Okay. If I commit suicide, I was off for what I am saying.

Simone Collins: Well, I, I think that it’s different. If we have like great grandchildren and we feel like we’re not useful anymore.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, yeah, yeah. If I’m an old person, I’m not useful.

I’m talking about like in the, in, in the middle of my advocacy work.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I’m still

Malcolm Collins: a public advocate. Right.

Simone Collins: Yeah. No, no, no. Like, I mean, again, you know, none of our children are grown yet. Like it’s very obvious that we wouldn’t. Commit suicide. I mean, I think even when, when we have the ability to be useful in the form of caring for grandchildren, we’re not gonna wanna, we’re not gonna wanna do that.

Oh, by the way, I, I, I, [00:31:00] I’ve noticed recently with re regard to the, the S word people are just cutting the sound for that one part when they say the word, Oh

Malcolm Collins: really?

Simone Collins: Which seems to help with the algorithm. So something to consider.

Malcolm Collins: Also days after her death, a handwritten note from GRE was found calling for quote unquote justice, now what’s interesting further is the, the, this case gets weirder by the way. So how can it

Speaker 2: get weirder?

Malcolm Collins: She claims that the bus was traveling at 68 miles per hour and that struck her vehicle causing life-threatening injuries, right?

Remember she said. Yes, you know, my life is at risk. In contrast, the Western Australian police described it as a minor crash, no reported injuries, and only about $2,000 in damage to her car’s taillight said that the clip bus clipped her. And it was being driven at 46, not 68. It said the car suddenly turned into its past and it wasn’t a major impact.

He didn’t even notice Jeffrey at the scene and only [00:32:00] learned later from an elderly driver about the passenger was a quote unquote black eye. . This gets really weird because the driver said that he hadn’t even noticed and he didn’t even report this to the next day.

So either she is just completely manufacturing this story. For sympathy or something, or this is a hit and somebody paid some people off in a rural police department. Mm-hmm. I don’t know what I think is more plausible. I, I guess it’s more plausible that she made this up. But then again, she did disappear shortly afterwards, which was a little weird.

Anyway.

Simone Collins: Yeah, that’s the thing. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, clearly someone, someone is not representing the truth. Very accurately. Yeah. I don’t know who it is.

Malcolm Collins: So, next thing we’re gonna go over, I don’t know if you’ve looked at the Russia game and just how much of that was like an actual case of really shady stuff that Obama did.

Simone Collins: No Obama [00:33:00] of, of, of Trump being elected by like, or, or, or Russian operatives playing a huge role in the 2016 election. That’s what you’re referring to, right? Well, they

Malcolm Collins: didn’t.

Simone Collins: Right, the, the allegations that Russian operatives, yeah. So played a huge role in Trump. I’ll go bit more election go,

Malcolm Collins: but essentially Obama did something really weird which was, go to a number of senior appointees he had within the DOJ and tell them to put together this dossier. He’s basically like, I need you to a group of handpicked officials, which, you know, wasn’t officials that you would pick if you were trying to choose the most competent or best researchers. Okay. He basically picked the collection of the five most CRO appointees that he had within the DOJ.

Oh dear. He then. Appointed them directly, which is not a normal thing for a president to do, to write a. Dossier on Russia election interference on behalf of Donald Trump. [00:34:00] Then when somebody who, Rogers who was the director of National Security Agency, the NSA came back because he was like, I forgot, like on leave or on vacation.

He was like freaked out at what was happening. He tried to act to have it shut down. And he wrote I’ve just returned from, from a TDY overseas and have been updated on the current status of the efforts to produce a joint project related to Russian attribution and intent for the DNC. DC. C hacks.

However, I wanted to reach out to you directly to let you know of some concerns I’ve had with what I am hearing of my folks. Specifically. I asked my team if they had sufficient access to underlying intelligence and sufficient time to review the intelligence. On both of these, my teammate’s concerns.

And I’m not gonna go further here ‘cause it’s a very long email. But he basically says what? Like, you need to stop this. And my team is being blocked from accessing [00:35:00] specific information, which is critical to make inference on this. And why did you assign it to my team? The one guy who would’ve pushed back when I was away on vacation basically, or on A-A-D-O-J leave, like researching something maybe.

Now the longer part of the reply, I’m gonna leave out here. But part of it was. We may have to compromise on our quote unquote, normal modalities. He literally put normal in square quotes here, normal modalities. Since we must do this on such a compressed schedule, why do they need to do it on a compressed schedule?

Yeah. Other than to get something out there that fits their narrative before Trump comes into office.

Simone Collins: Oh dear.

Malcolm Collins: So what I’m saying is I do, I was unaware because as a person who confirmed liberal media at the time of just how disproven the Russiagate controversy was, and in fact, previous investigations that have been done.

Not by the, the, you [00:36:00] know, the people with obvious biased agendas have shown that the reality is, is that Russian interference was, the election was completely aimed at just making people doubt the results of the election more broadly. Right? Basically, they set up traps for both Democrats and Republicans.

To try to inflame the crazy parts of both parties at about equal rates from what they’ve seen or just wherever they thought they could get crazier stuff. And so by publishing this, Obama was literally assisting the very stated efforts of the Russian misinformation campaign.

Simone Collins: Wow.

So if you were watching mainstream media at the time and didn’t, hear about this, , one of the IRAs, this was the Russia Election Interference Wings. Primary Operations was a black activist page, , that focused on things like racial injustice, police brutality, trying to create the [00:37:00] narrative of black people being disproportionately victimized to get them, , politically radicalized.

Eeg, this was the predecessor, Russiagate was the predecessor to what ended up becoming Black Lives Matter. In fact, , if you look at the, , this is an NPR that I’m reading from here, right? NPR I’m reading from a report titled Senate Report, Russian through Social Media, mostly to Target Race in 2016.

Quote and using ads was location targeting, quote, principally aimed at African Americans in key metropolitan areas in quote, the Russian information operations focused on page like Blacktivism, which garnered 11.2 million engagements on with Facebook users.

As a side note, this is why I get so frustrated with the Republicans who act like Russia is like our ally or something. They saw Democrats make this claim IE, that Russia supported the Republican party and they just unironically believed it and went along with it when it was media [00:38:00] misinformation. If you have a problem with the Black Lives Matter movement, then you have a problem with Russian election interference.

They are your enemy.

So yes. . There. There was definitely instances in which Russia tried to radicalize Republican voters, but there were equal instances in which they tried to radicalize, democratic voters.

As a great example of this, , May 27th, 2016 in Houston, one Russia back page, heart of Texas, was posting right-wing succession, anti-Islamic protest, stop the Islamicization of Texas. Meanwhile, a separate democratic page that they ran titled United Muslims of America organized the counter protest to the protest that their right wing protest was organizing.

And we even see, , early in 2016, IRA documents instructed trolls to support Bernie Sanders. .

To any extent [00:39:00] that Trump was, this actually is the key to understanding why it appears in some looks at the data that Russia was supporting Trump more than Hillary. It wasn’t that they were supporting the Republicans more than the Democrats, it’s that they thought Trump was a spoiler candidate like Bernie.

That’s why they supported him.

Simone Collins: Okay. That’s a blast from the past, but that’s pretty bad.

Malcolm Collins: Good gracious. So, and I’m sure you’ve been seeing this, but it is uniquely bad for any of our fans who haven’t. There have been two instances in which BBC has been found to very deceptively edit a tape to make it look like Trump is calling for a violent insurrection on the capitol when we know, oh, Virginia.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. What

Simone Collins: on January 6th?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, on January 6th. On January 6th. Basically, well, I’ll play the tape.

Speaker 8: And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not gonna have a country anymore. We’re gonna walk down. [00:40:00] To the Capitol and we’re gonna cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not gonna be cheering so much for some of them

Malcolm Collins: but, when you look at the real tape, it’s very clear that there was nothing of the sort, like somebody sat down and was like, I am going to deceptively edit this. But it gets worse because since then, further leaks have come out that people in the room when it was happening, like when the tapes were being reviewed for air, said We can’t air this.

This is intentionally deceptive. Mm-hmm. And they were dismissed. And then after it went to air a guy, who was it?

Simone Collins: At least someone has a very satisfying, I told you so this week must feel so good for them. So smug? Mm,

Malcolm Collins: yeah. Delicious. Well, no, it was actually every batch had a Republican and a Democrat who was [00:41:00] supposed to like tell them if they weren’t allowed to do stuff or if they were doing something egregious.

And it was the Republican who was supposed to do that. Who said this?

Simone Collins: A gra Tory, you mean? Or

Malcolm Collins: they just, just ignored. But anyway, then there was a, a, a separate whistleblower. So, the whistleblower, Michael Prescott, a former independent advisor to the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee.

repeatedly went to high level people at the BBC. He claimed his mor warnings were dismissed and ignored. And he attempted multiple times to reach out to BBC executives. He even described Jonas monroe is being defensive when asked about this.

So they knew they were lying. They knew that they had lied and somebody went to them repeatedly saying, you guys need to stop. This was a 19 page dossier that he completed to be like, you guys need to address this. You guys need to address this. You guys need to address this. They did address the first instance, but with some resignations, but they haven’t done anything further to address the second instance, which was a completely separate [00:42:00] team.

Simone Collins: Oh goodness.

Malcolm Collins: Showing that this is endemic. And note, this was during a period where the USAID was funding BBC media action to a tune of 2.6 million a year to, I think it was two point more 4 million USD. It was 2.6 million pounds.

Simone Collins: The British we’re organization not helping them enough.

I mean, don’t, aren’t there those cars that drive around the UK to,

Malcolm Collins: well, I love it how they’re like, oh, that wasn’t to the BC. That wasn’t important. Then we cut it off and all of a sudden the BBC is doing this big crime Near River campaign about how they’re not getting enough money to do anti-US lying propaganda.

The BBC needs to be shut down, and I think that this is something the Republican administration should lean on more as a major issue. Be like the BBC is an active threat to the American Alliance with the uk given that it is publishing anti-American hate speech. Other terrorist organizations like Hope Not hate, need to be labeled as terrorist organizations ‘cause they can’t be funded by the British government anymore.

[00:43:00] They’ve done hit pieces on us before and had undercover operatives in our organizations before. So you should see our piece on the, the connections that prove that they’re

Simone Collins: too, it’s to struggle with this because the BBC has. Produced some of my, you know, like a amazing shows a

Malcolm Collins: long time ago. They have not produced anything good in a long

Simone Collins: time.

Now, now modern Dr.

Malcolm Collins: Who,

Simone Collins: well, yeah. Okay. But that implies though that it could course correct. You know, it, it can, it can theoretically be, it cannot. Some severe reform, the licensing

Malcolm Collins: fee needs to be shut down and the government support needs to be shut down. The BBC has become, I think we have an izing built the.

Did we ever air that episode?

Simone Collins: Air? What episode?

Malcolm Collins: The episode on how evil the BBC is?

Simone Collins: I don’t think so.

Malcolm Collins: And well, I should look into our backlog ‘cause I know I fully edited it.

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: It’s a good episode. The BBC is very evil. They’re basically like a weird scam on the British public that like targets the British poor.

It’s, it’s weird. And then, no, we also had things like this in the US [00:44:00] was like the M-S-N-B-C reorging re-editing Joe Rogan to say she’s the hero. She’s the one that everybody was waiting

Simone Collins: for. Oh, I forgot that, right?

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: But wait, was that the BB. C.

Malcolm Collins: No, that was the E-M-S-N-B-C in the United States.

Simone Collins: Oh,

Malcolm Collins: okay.

What I’m making here is the media is

Simone Collins: selective. Remixing is not unheard of

Malcolm Collins: an active manipulation campaign on the American public at this point. I think we need to be more aggressive about holding them to account. The fact that people freaked out that Jimmy Kimmel would, that, you know, late night has replaced a lot of the media was being held to account for lying.

Okay. Lying, not getting something wrong or telling a joke that attacked Trump lying about an assassin of a dead guy, right? Like it wasn’t like a small thing and people freaked out and he got his job back. Like, we need to be more aggressive about misrepresentations in media. And media does need to be either head to account or need to have any ties to [00:45:00] governments removed.

And I think that, that it’s very important in the United States that we do. Cut off NPR in the UK in the BBC licensing program where everyone has to pay for a TV

Simone Collins: is pretty wild people, especially all the hilarious ways that people try to avoid those fees. Very entertainment. I paid mine. You never paid yours.

Malcolm Collins: I

Simone Collins: think I might have,

Malcolm Collins: but most of the time I was there I didn’t.

Simone Collins: Yeah, I think a lot of people try to avoid that, hide their TVs in closets, et cetera. But you know,

Malcolm Collins: the the, literally, I cannot believe they go around with like a van to like scan your house.

Simone Collins: That’s crazy. I mean, now

Malcolm Collins: Brenda is a dystopia. Britain is a dystopia. The we need to retake that country.

Simone Collins: We seriously do though. It’s, we we can, we can save it. We, we can.

Malcolm Collins: I had a call with what was it? The [00:46:00] times, like Times London today. ‘cause they’re doing a piece on us. And yeah, I was like, you guys live in a dystopia.

You know that, right? Like what a, what a miserable health

Simone Collins: thing.

Malcolm Collins: I was like, you know, people get

Simone Collins: arrested for, I mean, I, I knew it was bad when I went to the Johannesburg Subreddits and came across all these people in the UK who were like, Johannesburg’s looking really good right now.

Malcolm Collins: Well, we had that within our show was the aristocratic utensil saying, oh yeah, I’m taking a, moving from the UK to Johannesburg.

You know, at least I don’t get arrested for memes.

Simone Collins: But later he said he was always there and he didn’t know what we were talking about. So I’m so confused. Wait, he

Malcolm Collins: said he was always in Johannesburg?

Simone Collins: Yeah. So I don’t know what’s going on.

Malcolm Collins: No, he definitely said that on our podcast.

Simone Collins: I know both of us were very much under the impression that he was in the uk, so I don’t know, don’t, don’t ask me.

But anyway, yeah, I, I, I actually am under the impression that people do understand [00:47:00] the extent to which the media has become extremely biased. I think that one of the reasons why figures like Nick Fuentes are rising so much is that people are. Over, over indexing on authenticity of just like complete unfiltered ness.

And Nick Fuentes does that even when he goes too far. So they like that. And they just can’t, they can’t stand any sign of inauthentic, what’s the word? Like con condescension? Yeah. I, I don’t know. I, I actually think that these institutions have seen largely,

Malcolm Collins: but I think it would be authentic without, you know, being mean.

And I think that that’s where like Asma Gold does a great job. Um mm-hmm. And that’s why I was so glad to see that he’s our number one over overlap channel. We can be wholesome Asma gold. I, I mean, Asma Gold is wholesome as wholesome as Asma [00:48:00] Gold, but married and like. If, if in, in an alternate reality where he gets married and has kids,

Simone Collins: I, I hope that, I still hope that for him

Malcolm Collins: well, you know, he said I can’t keep a tree like a house plant alive.

I how am I supposed to keep a kid alive? And I’m like, it’s way easier. You’ll figure

Simone Collins: it out. Oh, but it’s, it wouldn’t even, it wouldn’t even be him because he is more of a traditional guy. Like he wants a wife who would just be a stay at home wife and or mother. So she would just do it all. She would manage the house.

Malcolm Collins: I, I can’t imagine what a wholesome dad as McGold would be. He’d be the best dad.

Simone Collins: Sweet. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: And I know

Simone Collins: a great dad.

Malcolm Collins: I know if he had kids he’d probably like start cleaning up and clean a lot of the stuff outta his house.

Simone Collins: No, no. He would, his, if he, if he were to marry a woman, I’m sure she would almost certainly insist.

To live in a different house. He might keep his childhood home and still like film in the attic. Honestly, like, you know how you have [00:49:00] like your bedroom and stuff and like it’s your

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, my bedroom is super dirty,

Simone Collins: terrifying. Outside

Malcolm Collins: of this small

Simone Collins: window

Malcolm Collins: that you guys see

Simone Collins: a rat nest and like, I almost feel like he might just maintain his home as that possibly even like sleep there.

For a certain number of reasons. Whatever. You don’t need to sleep

Malcolm Collins: in the same house as your wife. Let

Simone Collins: her raise the kid. Right. But like, I think, yeah, I think she’d have a clean house that she maintains and like she would take care of their kids and, you know, he would have that life. But, but he would maintain a space for his asthma gold ways in streaming.

But that’s how I see it working for him. And if he could find a woman who, and there are lots of women who would I’m sure be super down for that, you know, that, that, that would be sustainable. I, I really hope, I hope he has. I hope he has that It would be great if he can because you have that, right?

Like you get to live your life. Like you have your room the way you want it. You have all stuff. Well, it’s

Malcolm Collins: interesting because I’ve been

Simone Collins: thinking you

Malcolm Collins: can gimme a feel of this. ‘cause we were looking recently at overlap channels and we have things like. N ta, asthma, gold, and then Temple. [00:50:00] And Temple. Actually, the higher overlap was us in Ns, and I realized in my head that like NS and Asthma gold fall into a totally different brain category than 10 pool, where Temple feels very inauthentic compared to them.

And more like

Simone Collins: a tin. Maybe that’s because he came from Vice, like he came from Main, well, well, I mean really Vice is mainstream media, but like Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he came from the media world professionally first.

Malcolm Collins: And I, yeah, but I wonder where we come off to people. Are we more Ns Asma Gold, or are we more Temple?

I. Anyway,

Simone Collins: I’m, I’m, who knows

Malcolm Collins: by the way fun thing from the episode that we ran today on SSRIs Sterilizing people.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: A lot of people in the comments were talking, ‘cause I had talked about opioid agonists, about using opioid agonists and then it curing things like depression or anxiety for them, like permanently afterwards.

Simone Collins: That’s wild.

Malcolm Collins: And I just think opioid agonists are like a hugely underrated.

Simone Collins: [00:51:00] Super underrated. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: It’s, it’s literally an anti-drug. It removes your brain from being able to create the types of chemicals that drugs use to addict you to things. So now Facebook can addict you and, and masturbation can addict you and like gambling can addict you, which is fantastic.

Right. Anyway the final thing is what I’m having for dinner tonight. I assume we don’t have any, do we have any onions left?

Simone Collins: We do have onions, but what I was gonna suggest is that we just go pick up a bunch more peppers for you tomorrow if you wanna do more of the whatever that steak.

Malcolm Collins: Well, what I was thinking of, instead of doing the pepper beef, we could do a Mongolian beef tonight because that just uses chives.

Simone Collins: We can if you want to,

Malcolm Collins: unless you really don’t want to.

Simone Collins: Well, you’ve just been doing the same thing for like five nights in a row.

Malcolm Collins: I

Simone Collins: really like it. Seven nights in a row. Really? You, you don’t want Bullock, you [00:52:00] don’t want Burmese chicken. You don’t want crap. Peck cow, or whatever it is. You don’t want.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, Bullock might be good

Simone Collins: Bullock’s.

Really good curry. Sorry. Like what is it pumpkin, coconut soup or? Well.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I liked it so much last night, Simon.

Simone Collins: Aww.

Malcolm Collins: After I ate it last night, I just kept thinking, I want to eat this until my stomach hurts. And so I, okay,

Simone Collins: so you want Mongolian beef’s,

Malcolm Collins: Mongolian beef whiz lighter on the dark soy sauce recipe this time.

And just less of that and more of the chives.

Simone Collins: So basically the, the, the sauce should be very, very light. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, and, and you can always go heavier with oyster sauce or hoist and sauce if you want.

Simone Collins: Okay, I will do that. I’ll do that.

Malcolm Collins: Because that, that’s fine. Like that’s no salt. The problem is just the salt from last time.

Simone Collins: Okay. Then I shall do that. I’m,

Malcolm Collins: and, and I think it’s just about volume. I do a lower volume. [00:53:00]

Simone Collins: Of sauce.

Malcolm Collins: Of sauce and cook it down before you put the, well, because it’s coming from frozen, we should probably do it together.

Simone Collins: I can just let the beef sit at room temperature. So it’s, it’s thought out by the time I put it in the walk to cook it with the vegetables at the very end.

‘cause you don’t want, you don’t want it to be covered in the sauce too much, do you? You just want it to kind of be like singed at the very end, you know. Yes.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: Okay.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. No, it’s fine if it’s covered with the sauce, but I don’t want it to be as boiled in the sauce.

Simone Collins: Yeah, you don’t, yeah. You don’t want it sfi

Malcolm Collins: and it is good to be pressed against hot pan side because then you can get the, the searing effect.

Simone Collins: Okay. So sear it. I will, I will attempt to, well, I don’t know if I really can at that stage. I don’t know. We will, we’ll, I’ll, I’ll see what I can do, my friend. And I’ll make some fresh rice so it’ll smell nice. And rice. Ooh, [00:54:00] and delicious downstairs. I love the smell of fresh cooked rice. I’m wondering

Malcolm Collins: if you should put in onion.

Simone Collins: Nah. Mean You want me to saute onion?

Malcolm Collins: No,

Simone Collins: no. Just fresh chives. And we’ll pick up more peppers tomorrow. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Chives and Mongolian beef. This is all so good. Thank you, Simone, for making these amazing dishes.

Simone Collins: It’s absolutely my pleasure. Thank you for choosing dishes that you like.

Malcolm Collins: Well, you came up with a new way to mass batch fried beef for these.

That works really well.

Simone Collins: I didn’t. You did. And it, it’s a cumbersome process. I don’t know if we’ll do it again. I just don’t like deep frying. I don’t like the smell. It makes, I don’t like the, all the oil. It’s lame.

Malcolm Collins: You’re right. So what I’m thinking is. If I do this again, I can deep fry it myself in the deep fryer.

Mm-hmm. And just do like a very large, like five batches or something. One

Simone Collins: night we did, we, it was four pounds of meat that we did.

Malcolm Collins: [00:55:00] Yeah. And I’ll do even more because it creates blanks that we can use with multiple dishes.

Simone Collins: Yeah, that’s true.

Malcolm Collins: Anyway, love you.

Simone Collins: I love you too. Gorgeous.

God no, I don’t wanna move ‘cause he is asleep. It’s like having, have you ever had a cat fall asleep on your lap and you’re like, I can’t get up now.

Malcolm Collins: No,

Simone Collins: but

Malcolm Collins: he, he’ll have a great time when he wakes up. You can’t have him sleep for too long, otherwise he’ll stay up all night.

Simone Collins: He wakes up all night anyway because he’s hungry.

He needs to eat.

Malcolm Collins: But wait, tomorrow I’m thinking of doing the Israel one.

Simone Collins: Okay,

Malcolm Collins: well, we’re at the tail end of Nick Fuentes stuff because I think it’s been interesting. I think it, I think it’s an interesting episode.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I, I haven’t heard that take anywhere before, so I, I’m, I’m a fan. I mean, not that I like listen to a ton of Israel commentary, but it makes sense [00:56:00] to me and now I just want it.

Sorry, this from a more, because just before coming into this, I was listening to a Matt Bernstein podcast on some Donny and Israel and anti-Jewish sentiment and like, everything’s just like, are you pro Jew or anti Jew, or like people, I mean, they’re, they’re, they’re actually anti-Zionist Jews mostly on that podcast, if I’m reading it right.

But like everything’s just so. Politicized around Zionism as a, a concept, but Zionism from the perspective of like the Jewish people have a right to Israel as like a thing, you know, like we need to give them like Jerusalem

Malcolm Collins: mm-hmm.

Simone Collins: Because of their, like religious birthright. And you and I don’t, as much as we support them.

Running things in Israel because they do a good job and they, you took it and you, you’re doing well with it, so it’s [00:57:00] yours. Like, by all means, that doesn’t mean we have this same weird sentiment around like, oh yes, it is your religious prerogative to hold this land. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, yeah. That is actually yeah.

Well, I mean, as I say, our form of conservatism is very nichean in nature, which is to say if they can hold the land, then,

Simone Collins: then it’s theirs.

Malcolm Collins: Yes.

Simone Collins: You are entitled to that, which you can take, which,

Malcolm Collins: which also makes it, you know, make more sense to say, we’ll cut off military aid to them. If they can’t keep the land without our military aid after 70 years

Simone Collins: mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Then they shouldn’t have it anymore.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: But I, I, I think more broadly, it would just make our ties with them much stronger if we just removed that. That’s

Simone Collins: well, and I would like to al align ourselves with them in a way that leans us both into the future instead of reactively, entrenches, entrenches, both of us in conflict with adversaries, because to a certain point, [00:58:00] feeling these conflicts keeps ‘em going in the first place.

So I’m not for it.

Malcolm Collins: All right. Love you.

Simone Collins: I love you too. Bye. Bye.

Speaker 11: Octavian, explain what happened.

Speaker 12: Bed. You saw a six, seven kid, you said? Yeah. And how did the, how did the, did the six seven kid come in your room at night? Uh, did he come in because you were watching bad YouTube videos? No. No. I your do I? Happy Meal. 3:00 AM in the night, then six that can Happy Meal. Then um, if you order back then the six, where can I to do that please.

So don’t order a Happy Meal, a six seven Happy Meal at 3:00 AM at night [00:59:00] or the six seven kid will come after you. Yeah. But I thought he, what does he do behind trees? He spawns behind them. He spawns behind them. Yeah. So like back tree and see, so he could be like in the woods. Yeah. Well, what are you gonna tell our subscribers?

Speaker 11: How do they keep their kids safe? Um, we keep kids safe. How? Like they stay inside of, stay inside. Yeah. And what about liking and subscribing? Did that help? Yeah, that will help. Yeah. We don’t know if it actually will. So I describe to help us and even like I describe, for us to be safe. So they won’t be safe from six, seven unless they like and subscribe.

That’s what you’re saying from, I think the car eater video and the car eater didn’t attack the drone one time. And I think that because I gives us a lot of [01:00:00] subscribers, so we’re gonna like try to buy a drone like that and please give. That’s what I can describe him to 1000 trees so I can surf. So like tiny Drone doesn’t get a tag.

That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. That we buy from this store. When we saw a video with our phones and everything and we’re going to go and the feet tried to defeat the six, seven K. It was a bullet boom. Black. Okay. Okay.

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