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157. CULTS: How NXIVM Controlled Women & How Sarah Edmondson Helped Take It Down

We Can Do Hard Things

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I'm Going to Lay on the Table, I'll Show You How It's Done

"I just went into a disassociated, like when you're kind of floating and like, and then I was thinking about my son and giving birth to him," she said. "The more you moved, the more painful it was." She says that while there were lots of truths in Janessa and SOP, Keith was planting his own misogynist hatred of women. "[Keith] had this belief that women are flaky and we don't uphold our word [and] we're always looking for the backdoor," she added.

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