
122/ In Search of Afro-Solarpunk w/ Rob Cameron
The Fire These Times
The Winter Story of Solar Punk
I sometimes have used the term pragmatic utopia, essentially, as it could be a useful tool to have some kind of goal or vision ahead. But that vision doesn't have to be a stable one. It can actually evolve over time, if that makes sense. Sometimes you have to attack the problem, not directly, but indirectly. You are in a fight with systems which are still in play. And we're just going to bow down and disappear because a legislation isn't passed. There's new president. We have a new technology. Once these ideas are in play, then this is where the story begins. That story will inevitably involve power, politics, crime, murder, and perfect people
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