The first phase one rollout of MDMA was like 83% cure rate for chronic severe PTSD, which was amazing. How many people had transformational, oftentimes conversion level experiences of being able to reclaim the divinity of their own lives? Perhaps it was starting to put out their really good MDMA therapeutic data. That's... I want to highlight the word cure. Totally. The four primary ones that I was pointing to at the time were DMT for the spiritual process in the mid-90s.

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