There is no wild. Every space that's available for animal life on this planet and above the planet is a human-dominated space. The largest land places where animals can roam are wildlife reserves in African nations. I think we should realize that that's actually a problem, that animals are having miserable lives in spaces that we control. And so what should we do about that? Well, I think at the margins, we may intervene in small ways. For example, in the tourist industry, there's a Greek interest and a lot of money is made here watching animals devour other animals.

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