How to Value a Stock in Five Years

I like to not think what would a private owner pay for it today because I feel it anchors me too much in the current news. The most important thing is go to that merger document so people don't know this. When we did that, and we looked at Jardim or Newell, purchasing Jardim, they went through a bunch of different companies. And that's the reference range that they use. There's a pretty good, I thought, Apple's to Apple's way to look at it.