#418 - The State of Debate (w/ Mike Pesca)
The Fifth Column
Discussion about Mike Pesca and Michael Moynihan's birthday, and mention of Not Even Mad podcast
The hosts express gratitude to Mike Pesca for appearing on the podcast and talk about how Michael Moynihan spent his birthday working on the podcast audio. They also mention the podcast Not Even Mad and inquire about Virginia Heffernan's previous appearances.
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