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Podcasts and the Wall Gardens of the Creatives
There's a certain sense, especially in modern times where the wall gardens naturally lead to people who are not creatives starting to have power over the creatives. And even if they don't stifle it, if they're providing incentives within the platform to shape shift or even completely mutate or distort the show, imagine somebody has got reasonably interesting idea for a podcast and they get signed up with Spotify. Then Spotify is going to give them financing to get the things spun up. But Spotify has conditions for that. They say, look, we think that your podcast will be much more successful if you dumb it down about 60%. If you add some silly dirty jokes, if you do this,