There's a distinct calling to lose yourself that is apparent in both acting and throwing ceramics each are transcendent in their own way. I've been talking to a lot of artists about this notion of this sense of amuse moving through you instead of buy you. Rick Rubin writes quite a lot about it in his book can you talk about the difference of the creative spirit moving through you rather than created by you? You could be listening to design matters which I often do in my studio but you could be your brain could be somewhere completely else but your your hands are going through the process and making something.