Authentic Marketing in Engineering Talent

Polished is out. Grit is in. If you want your brand to cut through the noise, it might be time to take a cue from the underground music scene.

In this episode, we’re taking lessons from 90s indie rock with special guest Scott Rayburn, CMO of DataArt. 

Together, we talk about how brands can market with meaning, stay relevant in the digital age, and create content that hits like your favorite song.

About our guest, Scott Rayburn

Scott Rayburn is the Chief Marketing Officer at DataArt. He’s experienced in leading cross-functional, high-performing content, GTM/sales, comms, operations, and creative teams, and skilled in content strategy, sales enablement, demand generation, SEO, product marketing, website strategy, branding, partner marketing, and providing creative direction.

Scott has been with DataArt since 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as Director of GTM & Content at global technology services company Wizeline. He has also led product marketing at companies like The Risk Management Association and Proscia.

What B2B Companies Can Learn From 90s Indie Rock:

• Lead with authenticity.
Great marketing doesn’t have to be glossy, it just has to be real. The best indie rock bands of the '90s didn’t rely on flashy production or major label backing to build loyal followings. They embraced raw sound, DIY, and intimate venues, and that resonated deeply with fans. Scott draws a parallel to modern marketing: “People can see through BS… you actually generally will get better results from the kind of authentic stuff.”
• Think in lifetimes, not just campaigns.
The strongest brands create lasting emotional connections, much like your favorite bands. “These bands that started in the eighties are still filling up 5,000-person theaters today,” Scott explains. Why? Because their fans feel a deep, emotional connection. For marketers, this means nurturing your audience beyond the funnel. Build a brand people want to grow old with, not just click on once.
• Stay active on every channel.
Indie rock bands don’t just put out an album and disappear. Scott says, “Even if they're not making new songs, they need these channels to stay relevant, to sell tickets, to sell merch. It's all kinds of tied to marketing. And this is a tie between the authenticity and customer lifetime value. It's really activating that in a digital age.” Marketers need to do the same. A strong multi-channel strategy ensures your message reaches people where they are, whether that’s a blog, a webinar, an event, or a TikTok feed. Being present across platforms consistently helps brands stay top of mind, accessible, and adaptable to change.

Quotes

*“ This authenticity that we were talking about with these bands, people can see through BS. Whether it's like an Instagram reel or a LinkedIn ad, or an email campaign. It can still work. Your marketing can still work if it's completely polished. But I think, and I see from some results that come from a company work that DataArt is doing. You actually generally will get better results from the kind of authentic stuff. And this is kind of where you see brand maybe driving more revenue than demand generation, but who can actually count the dollars from brand? Well, not me, but maybe someone can let me know. So those conversations are happening.”

*“ These bands that started in the eighties are still filling up 5,000-person theaters today… There's this multi-channel approach, which is a huge part of marketing and content marketing. You notice they're all on Spotify. They all have websites, they all have social media. Even if they're not making new songs, they need these channels to stay relevant, to sell tickets, to sell merch, e-commerce. It's all kind of tied to marketing. And this is a tie between the authenticity and customer lifetime value. It's really activating that in a digital age.

*“ The number one thing I've noticed in content marketing is the huge need to transition from the faceless 1000-word blog post to something that's more interactive. The quote with somebody's face on your social media post is gonna perform five times better than the faceless five AI trends.”

*“ You can't do everything yourself. Build a good team around you. Be T-shaped 'cause you're not gonna be a marketing leader if you're not T-shaped…And try to create some way that you can stay focused on your strengths, and then lean on others who have strengths of their own. Have this kind of holistically built type of leadership team.”

Time Stamps

[0:55] Meet Scott Rayburn, CMO at DataArt

[02:02] Why 90s Indie Rock?

[03:53] What is Record Store Day?

[04:55] The Role of CMO at Data Art

[06:38] Origins of 90s Indie Rock

[10:50] The Indie Rock Movement and Its Impact

[20:30] Building Community Through Music

[31:11] B2B Marketing Takeaways from 90s Indie Rock

[38:39] How You Can Be More Authentic in Your Marketing

[46:55] Advice for marketing leaders

[47:29] Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Links

Connect with Scott on LinkedIn

Learn more about DataArt

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