Do you think it's realistic to hope that there'll be a kind of restoration of greater free speech? Well, it's even more complicated than that, because i think some of the biggest threats to free speech are not actually those that are being done by governments. You have these big internet platforms like gugl and facebook that have the ability to strongly amplify certain messages. And what they've been doing is amplifying material that is toxic - often conspiracy theories. They care about their bottom lines, and therefore things that are viral are, you know, things that they want to promote,. rather than things that are politically a good. That's where we get into real dangers, because it's not
Freddie Sayers meets Francis Fukuyama.
Francis Fukuyama is a political scientist and public intellectual, most famous for his 1992 book The End of History and the Last Man which has helped to define how we understand contemporary history. His new book is called Liberalism and its Discontents.
Freddie Sayers spoke to Dr. Fukuyama about the war in Ukraine, current trends in Western democracy, and how liberalism can better understand aspects of the human condition it has historically neglected.
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