Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to unpack the central illusion of Trump’s presidency: that someone, somewhere knows what is going on—when in fact nobody does, least of all Trump himself. From Iran’s uprising to Venezuela’s phantom “invasion,” Wolff explains how Trump exploits uncertainty by announcing conflicts he has no intention of prosecuting, using noise, grandiosity, and endless talking to stay at the center of attention while avoiding real risk or consequence. The conversation ranges from ICE and Minneapolis to Greenland, shoes, height, and the limits of loyalty, before landing on the most dangerous question of all: What happens when Trump’s talent for manufactured crises collides with a real one—Russia, Iran, or a nuclear threat he cannot simply talk his way out of?
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