"The job of the interview is to figure out the answers to these questions and you're not going to figure that out by just talking," he says. "I think there are four things I'm looking for in an interview that I'm trying to figure out through getting as close to the work as possible" The third thing is it's something of like, would it be interesting to work with you for a long period of time? He adds: "There are certain places where like a level of trust and safety and love might be a really big difference in performance"

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