The only thing that i can think of, and this actually kind of became an emergent, mean, throughout the conference, is the idea of omnithrive. So that means that what is the optimal emergence system in which everya sub system at every level can maximuly thrivein and have maximum aliveness? And so that doesn't imply that you can't consume animals, for example. It just means that there's some, some sort of balance. Like it's an idea whole systems approach, whole systems, yes.

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