I read somewhere that you weretar unitarian with very wichs, supposedly under the rubric. But it's a, it was very non s very social justice and progressive, but not so much about a spiritual experience. Well, even groobier than i gave it. One of the things that makes deempty very interesting to me is that it seems like a conversion experience that you can just sort of inhale. I mean, that seems really strange tomee. There's not somewhere yu're trying to get. It's truly what is. That's it.