Pikei: I think one of the things that i tend to underestimate is how often people find it hard to start. And they have an idea, and they look it, they lean to it, and, like you said, sometimes you'd just start. Sometimes the people are in your life whom you didn't expect. This vilesha podcast was something i looked at for probably six or seven years see and thought, well, my friends were doingthemi wanted to. But then one day, without knowing thing, sa, lus, just start.