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Puden has been saying since two thousand eight that ukraine and georgia could eventually be eligible for membership of nato. The russians at the time said, this is an absolute non starter for us. It's a red line. And in fact, later that year, they rolled the tanks into georgia to put a stop to that idea. Paulane ukrane: I mean, it feels like there is no exit here because poten has a lot of pride and nuclear weapons.
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