"I was so tired of just being rejected like I have to pivot something," he says. "You know chewing 22 cans of tobacco on the road and 27 spitters in the floorboard but what you learn is to continue to have a different conversation." He adds that his first bond was actually a green berry in all things in Colorado. 'The feeling of utter kind of failure and rejection at okay so I accidentally kind of quit the army'
In today's episode, Andy and the crew are joined by the founder and CEO of GORUCK, Jason McCarthy. They discuss how Jason's training as a Green Beret helped him build the GoRuck brand, the best way to deal with the uncertainties in business and life, and the importance of having an optimistic outlook toward America's future.