Do Things Get Done Without the Enforcer?

"My sheila and are ar is the people that we're like, look, there are some native peoples on these lands. I'm not saying i that's inexcusable, but like, it seems like, well, it's self perpetuating, right?" "I think that the idea of things don't get done without like, kind of a manevil personye, an enforcer who's willing to to inflict suffering on people, is a myth," he says.