Tom Cruise is... No, Tom Cruise is koozie. Oh no! Poor Markinson, bro. He had so much

on his mind. There is no

Markinson. Markinson doesn't exist.

If Markinson doesn't exist, it takes up a night. I'm neither proud of what I did. Oh my god. Oh, shit.

Haffey was way more like Colonel Nathan Jessup than he was. Maybe he was. Markinson, yeah. I

was workshopping something where when they're in Algiers, they run into Nell for two seconds looking for the gym, and she's like, and they're like, this lady's crazy. What's going to happen? She's in the woods? Yeah, she's in the woods. She's in the woods in Algiers with the alligators. Just one Oscar. Who gets it? Tough one.

Yeah, it's tough. Because it seems like the obvious

answer is Nolte, but he's going so far that... I think I'd probably go Shelton's screenplay just because he's probably the best writer of sports

movies ever.

Yeah. I'd probably go JT Welsh but I don't really feel like anyone deserves an Oscar not

really but if you had to give one it'd be the script probably

unanswerable questions why wasn't Jalen Rose and this was my number one I don't really have any other ones we've already covered what piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie? Pete Bell's ring, his championship ring, which is prominently shown over and over again, I think would be a good one. But for me, it would be Tony's number 44 blue western jersey during the point shaving game. I just think it would be a great thing to have in the house. I'd

like one of those TV-VCR combos and then all the game tapes. Game tapes would be fucking fantastic. And I would also honestly love B-roll extra footage that Friedkin had of just the practices and games.

Yeah, that should just be on YouTube, those games.

Watching the Bobby Hurley, Calvert-Cheney Indiana team. Like how they actually were getting down and going crazy. That

has to exist. That's a fun rewatchables category. If this footage existed, how much of it would you watch on YouTube? I think I'm in for over an hour of the game footage.

Absolutely. Watching Hurley in the Indiana uniform is so surreal. It's kind of like, oh, I look pretty cool. It did. Do

you feel like that point guard style is just gone now? That point guard with the head up Pounding the ball who's always looking Who's always ready to run like the

perfect three on two And he starts to set so fast It's morphed a little bit It's kind of gone But I see it in some players

Ronnie?

You're hating on him

He had 17 He had 17. All right, Stephen. Because now it's like the point guard now is like the Darius Garland type would be the type in this opposing guy in the movie. You know who has a little bit of his new Scoot? I

was about to say Scoot. Scoot has a little bit of that. Thanks for that, CR. Scoot's

coming along. No, but it's more like a maxi type. Brazil and I have so much Scoot stock. It's like our brokers are telling us to offload it right now. Scoot's like, no, you think Reed

Shepard used to be a guy that would be

like that. But Reed Shepard's a little too silky. He can do a little bit too many things. The Zawantane Award for what happened the next day. I'm bringing this back just for this movie. We talked about, I just think we have to go through the three

guys. We find out the title cards, right?

We find out Ricky Rowe injured his knee and works on a farm. Tough beat. Karma for him. They made him somehow the least likable guy in a movie with a point shaver and a booster who's shaving points and paying off players and Pete Bell who's not likable. Racist, horny, at least his dad, like, asshole. Like, his character, Ricky Rowe, like, he welcomed all racists. I think Ricky Rowe would have sex with anybody. I think

Ricky Rowe was cool, but they didn't give his character and his family. A good handshake with Shaq at one point? And his family, they gave him, like, no dimensions. He also

really does not have much of a role on the team as they kind of, like, they don't, there's not a lot of Ricky Rowe footage we get outside of him shooting in the yard.

That, that was kind of the last era for the Ricky road type guys. Those that kind of six, seven, six,

yeah. Yeah.

It peaked with Austin crochet in the 2000 finals. And then he was getting busy.

Slowly went down. Gordon Hayward is the last gasp.

Butch. I just think it's the actual careers the guys had, except Neon would have been like five years older getting into the league. But same kind of, I think, arcs. I think Neon might make an All-NBA. Neon's playing Shaq. Yeah. So he's Shaq in personality. Even when he walks

out there after all of this stuff has happened and he goes coach and you think he's about to say something profound like you really changed my life yeah getting me out of the jungle of algiers snakes everywhere alligators all that no is yelling at me is that the whole deal and he goes you like my spin move yeah and then you know that's that's who shack is coach

finstocker, we're a best life lesson. I

guess if you're going to cheat, don't act ashamed of it. You know what I mean? Like, that's sort of what comes along with all of this. Mine

is just fucking cheat. You know, just fucking cheat. Yeah, why not? Stop acting like a bitch. Cheat. Get the wins. Like, nobody cares. Now you're coaching in the Midwest somewhere Kids and whatever, just cheat, man Do you think Jenny and Pete get back together? Seems

like not

I mean, if she Marcus Johnson, I think he circles back I mean, I mean After Pete quits, I think he's coming by with a bottle of wine Call twice The

reality is like, who's gonna fucking want her? CR?

I think she should move. Why didn't she move after the divorce? Get out of there. Start your life somewhere else.

She's a teacher in Los Angeles. Move

to like wherever. Move to Anaheim. She takes her get away from this guy. She takes her some fucking pride in herself and the way that she looks in her appearance maybe she can actually get a man. Because she's not going to get Marcus Johnson looking like that. He's got some of you.

She's

going to have to be Empty Jet Beauty of the Week. Go to a store that sold clothes from the last 10 years.

Zewant Neo, does Bob Cousy's character have a massive heart attack when his entire athletic program is brought to its knees? Yeah. He's got the football program. It's fine. They're dirty too.

The football program gets outed at the press conference. Happy says a linebacker and they buy in people, friends of the program. My

Coach Finstock Award for best life lesson is go wide on the basketball scenes. Don't try to reinvent the wheel. We like to see basketball from a certain perspective and don't overthink it. Best double feature choice. I

think White Man Can't Jump just because... No, you know what? I'm going to go above the room. I'm going with the program. I

have one-on with Robbie Benson. I would watch that first. It's also Western University. It's basically the same things, but it's the 70s perspective on it. It's a really good movie the

one-on robbie benson robbie benson it's a big moment now out

of all the 70s basketball movies which i obviously have loved and seen a million times i think it's weirdly aged the best it's got seals and croft as the soundtrack a netto tool soon to be seen in 48 hours is the love interest um it's got good basketball scenes and uh i don't know robbie benson can kind of hoop like for real he's he's like a little austin reeves-ish

okay

check it out should san antonio just put a contract on the table very youthful looking 70 year old guy he's inance now. Yeah. Some

70s babes in that movie. Like who? Like for real. No, there's like a, let's get the lead character laid scene. Okay. Yeah. I think you'll like it. Yeah. Who won the movie? Tough one. I'm going to say Nolte. It defines the movie. His performance defines the movie. For me personally, Koozie wins it. But I actually think. Are you fucking kidding me? Koozie's What are you doing, Bill? Ten straight free throws with the cameras rolling. Fucking A. Was there a better athletic moment in a sports

movie in the 90s? Ten straight. Bill, Shaquille O'Neal is fucking... Larry Bird is shooting free throws in this movie. Like Penny looks... The heart wants what

the heart wants. You're joking. I said for me, Bob Koozie wins the movie because I love seeing the Cousy in this movie.

Not Mary McDonald's costume designer? No. Shaq wins the movie to

me. I think Shaq wins the movie.

I think all these years later, I think this movie's a huge win for him. It's the only

time he's really been hyper... He can charisma his way through anything, but the only time he's been really competent in a movie to me is this one. All right. Producer Craig had never seen this movie. Really? Let's get the take.

Also, not to outdo Koozie, but Ricky Rowe hits like four straight jumpers on a dirt road. So he

just, Ricky Rowe is just fucking, they real shots.

By the way, the sequel to me has to be Nolte goes to like, or Pete Bell goes to like Montana State, builds a team the old school way, and then ends up meeting Western in March. Oh, yeah. As like a 15 first two season. Freddie's coaching them. Yeah. Dylan West Dylan style. Yeah. Yeah. That would be awesome. But I love this movie. This is an early contention for top five rewatchables. Wow. Wow. I thought it was just like a really great nostalgic look at it at an old era. It takes a lot of swings. I think, honestly, most of it works. I think all the Pete Bell, the Pete Bell stuff plays for me. The romanticism plays for me. As I was watching, I just like jotted down six bullet points is what I wrote down watching. One of the great opening sports movie scenes ever. Fantastic pace for a movie where, you know, a lot of it takes place in offices or in like homes in the Midwest. Happy has the most what's age the best and worst speech of all time. I think it's the best basketball in a movie ever. Interesting. I think the case

made i

think it's the most refreshing cameo old school cameos that kind of also represent an era that's it like jim boeheim just sitting in the background it's just if that'd be like if damien chazelle made a football movie today and it was like oh yeah kyle shanahan's in it malik neighbors is the main character yeah drake may's in it for a couple scenes like something that wouldn't happen today. Don't get Bill Madd with only a couple scenes. Why isn't Drake

May the star? What happened? I

also wrote down Creedence Clearwater Revival. Jenny Bell, greatest ex-wife of all time. And Bob Cousy. You'd sooner believe that Cousy was an actor they taught to play basketball than the other way around. Cousy's very good. Cousy's

very

good as an actor.

That's also a shot at his form, though, I gotta say. It's a little Stanley from The Office, not gonna lie.

What, were you surprised by the ending?

No, ignore that. Address it. No,

I think you, I think it needed to happen. I think it's one of the only sports movies I can remember that doesn't end on the big game, and the actual games don't really have too big of an impact on the movie. Yeah. It's impressive that the basketball is so good considering that the basketball is not that essential to the film and it doesn't end. I mean, the end of the movie is the first game of the season, which I can't remember when that's happened. So I thought the ending really worked for me. Also, you guys didn't, did you guys do a better title? I think there's a better title for this movie. What is it? I think it's Friends of the Program.

Friends of the Program is good, but then it reorients the movie around the Friends of the Program and not really the players, which is what the movie is essentially about. What

about Where the Dolphins Swim?

Did they say blue chips in the movie? No. I feel like they should have. It's the rare time when I think they should have said, like, we need to get some blue chips on this. But I'll

be honest with you. The title of this movie is how I understood what that meant.

Yeah, I think I'm good with the title, but I like Friends of the Program. It's pretty good. The

recruits would be good.

They should make a movie called Friends of the Program that's oriented around. Like a movie about Happy and those types would be super duper interesting. I think you needed an extra scene that then set up the title.

Where if you have, if they're going like, we need to get guys in the top 10. We need top 10 recruits again. We need blue chippers. And then you call it top 10 and it's like we got three top 10 blue chippers or the blue chippers something somebody says that at some point i'm down with that i

also just like when great directors make movies that are outside their typical what you would expect of them like i almost wish there were prerequisites like in college where where directors had to make every kind of movie before they could choose a major. Like, the guy who just made The Exorcist doing a basketball movie is really cool. And I think it's why, visually, it is a little bit more unique than typical sports movies.

It's not just The Exorcist that he made, Craig. He also made

Cruising. Yeah. Cruising. Yeah. So there's this. We haven't done French Connections, so this is our third freaking. I think there's

a fourth one. We haven't done To Live and Die in L.A. yet. I love that movie. Oh, auditioning. I'm not just saying I love it. I mean, you know. Out on 4K Blu-ray.

Well, you know, Mulaney's kind of bringing it back to the Netflix show. I know. He basically ripped out the opening credits.

Do you think Jenny Bell is Apex Mountain for ex-wives in a movie? She basically gives up her personal life to crush tape. She lets you come over after the game to blow off steam and drink, and she recruits students for you for free. It's

weird because... I mean, she's basically doing everything for him except giving up the push. She does more than Freddie. It would take too long to get her clothes

off. She's wearing like five different pieces of clothing. Shirt, a sweater, a jacket. She's still

so involved. He can ask her for anything except for physical effects.

She's going out to dinner with them. It's like they're still married. She's making Google eyes at them still. It's the air of the wet blanket sports movie girlfriend slash wife.

Yeah. Starting with Adrian.

She's

not a wet blanket though. No,

they try not to make it the wet blanket but then at the end when she's super disappointed and she definitely becomes a wet blanket after a while. She wet blankets it up but she's kind of justified because she's the only person with a soul in the movie. I

was going to ask you, we didn't really do Big Kahuna Burger, Craig, but would you like it if, like, basically everybody from work went to the same restaurant every night? Yeah,

hell yeah.

And I walked in one night with, like, two ladies.

Craig, she's a friend of that. These guys are fans of the Fantasy Pod. These gals love Heifetz. They got first in their Fantasy League. If we were all

at the bar together, who would be the person that walked in with two ladies on their arms? Brian Curtis. That's always the answer. He's

a friend of the program. He's a friend of the program.

Hello, media consumers.

Craig, really glad you liked that movie. Don't forget, people listening, we're coming to Boston for a sold-out show, and we're doing a first-ever rewatchables film festival at the historic coolwich corner all weekend friday march 28th through the march 30th um we're gonna make a couple appearances yeah but we're playing all the hits man we we're showing heat we're showing the town we're showing goodwill hunting we're showing uh friends of ed. A couple of old school ones. The Verdict. These are all Boston-based movies? Either

Boston or heist movies. Are you guys going to be showing the H. Will Max documentary, A Murder in Boston? That would be good for

the people. We're showing all seasons of Oz. Marathon. All the Rick Fox episodes of Oz. Just the Rick Fox ones.