How do you transition successfully in a circumstance like that was certainly one piece of it? The other thing is transitions have become more and more frequent. People were moving increasingly quickly through different roles, which meant they had even less time to get up to speed. And then, of course, with COVID-19, I feel like everybody's in transition, right?I mean, it's 100% transition all the time right now,. So that'd be a couple of things I think that have kind of changed over time.

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