Is It's Not a Plug?

Red: I think some of the most fulfilling suspense novels, for instance, that I've read on the more horror side, not just straight up suspense work really well. Because they start you off with a feeling of unease. That's one of those things where I realized that starting off with that sense of unease already sets your audience up to be expecting that kind of stuff. Sometimes it does work to get away from those tried and true tropes of the plotting world. And then there's more to come. Red will mention at least once in a podcast episode, red pandas.