The Push and Pull of Being Traditionalists

"I see the hedonism of the seventies all the way up through till now as this great unwinding and this fraying of the fabric of society, you know. So I have to think about like, okay, so if we can't go back to that, what can we do? And we have to look to the future where I think society is probably arranged in a totally new way." "You don't want to sort of like set it up ahead of time. You kind of want to let things play out ... That's the futurist in me".

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