I think Liz Cheney, like her father, is someone who is concerned with legacy and she understands that the people who did not stand up to Trump are going to absolutely be on the wrong side of history. But I think just because someone does the right thing doesn't mean that they should be valorized. And she's wrong on so many issues that while I appreciate what she's doing with regard to Trump and the January 6th Commission, I don't think that we need to valorize her.
Roxane Gay joins Kara as guest co-host! They discuss the growing threats of violence following the FBI’s search of Mar-A-Lago and Salman Rushdie's recovery after his on-stage attack. Also, Amazon turns surveillance into reality TV, and Al Franken endorses Liz Cheney. Friend of Pivot Ken Burns discusses his latest work, “The U.S. and the Holocaust.”
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“The U.S. and the Holocaust” premieres September 18th on PBS.
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