When I went to Yasha's lab as a visiting student and then as a postdoc in 2013, if you counted everyone, including myself, there must have been like 45 people or so. So the competition is incredible. And then I got to go through all the challenges that I had to do. But nowadays, let's say I talk with Yasha because I visit Montreal recently. And now there are more than 1,000 people, including professors, students, postdocs, and so on. So yeah, that's how I actually ended up in Montreal is that a bit of love.And then with a lot of time to just think and read about what others are doing in order

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