The Different Fantasies People Have About Meditation

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I was listening to Sam Harris interview, Richie Davis and Dan Goldman. They kind of completely expressed meditation as this practice of cultivating meta awareness in order to create a healthier brain. And so I wonder, maybe that might be a good place to kind of turn towards like, what are the fantasies that you've identified that typically people are sort of operating on behalf of when it comes to meditation? Yeah, I can't remember. Let's see. Well, yeah, I mean, for example, right?Yeah, it's like the kind of medical model. You're taking pain disease suffering and the point of the path is to eradicate or at least reduce as much as possible that suffering. So

In this conversation with meditation teacher and author Rob Burbea we discuss the role of fantasy in meditation, the purpose of what Rob calls the 'Soulmaking Dharma' and some common traps that can obstruct our connection with beauty on the contemplative path. This was the first conversation I had with Rob (there are two more you can listen to in the Emerge podcast stream). For various reasons I decided not to release it immediately after we recorded it, feeling that the subsequent conversations did a better job of communicating what I wanted to communicate. There were also some nasty recording problems that made it difficult at times for the conversation to be fluid and flowing. In any case this is a lovely coversation and I hope you enjoy! 🙏