i'm told that most working mathematicians are platonists, that they think of what they study as in some sense real. Do you do, you know, or care, or have a take on that debate? Ah, i certainly don't know as much about it as some of your other guests,. But i guess a way that mathematics can make the world a better place is by making it a more interesting place to be a conscious being. And that's how i, that's what inspires me to be a mathematician.

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