How to Surveill Negligence in Your Church

There's so many harvest refugees in that church, including some of the former elders from harvest. So they're in part reacting strongly against the negative things that we're talking about. And you can't just like get rid of those negative things. You have to replace them with something. But the thing is, I think part of the problem with the whole culture is that there's such little theological formation, even for the pastors,. They don't know these things that I think are quite basic. The churches aren't able to discern what's going wrong and neither are the leaders.