There's no evidence so far that the US actually really has developed these balloons and deployed them in an operational way. The Chinese after the American shot down their balloon the Chinese accused America of flying I think it was 10 balloons over Chinese airspace. But there's no evidence of that. So what does this balloon incident say about the US-China-spying relationship? What's your takeaway here? One of the things that's happening here is that China is catching up with the US and is developing new capabilities and the US is having to react to that. There's a gap between the US and China shrinking.