Karmin is very ambitious, but i consider those attributes not flaws, to be ambitious and competitive. She's genuinely nice and very grounded. Always, although tightly scheduled, always seems to have time to look you in the eye or to help mentor somebody who wants advice. So she has that perfect match of something everybody at gugle would know, which is the need for competition and co operation to be interwoven. And what is jenifer like as subject? I mean, ina, we can read about her in the book, but, you know, this is a big deal for someone like karmin.

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