This chapter explores the concept of balancing stable employment with pursuing creative passions, discussing successful artists who had day jobs before achieving fame and the various jobs they held. The speakers also discuss the fantasy of being a professional creator without the need for self-promotion, reframing the notion of making money from a full-time job, and their personal experiences juggling multiple creative pursuits alongside a day job.

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