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The Dangers of Thinking in the Medium to Long Term
There are very, very few heavyweights on the Labour benches now. It's plausible to think that it's not crazy for a man to think he'll be at the top table in five or six years time. The thing about Starmer is he has not been subjected to the scrutiny yet. He's completely untested by that. I don't want to harp on too much on this old and medium, new media thing that I was talking to Richard Dambry about earlier.